The devil and the delight is in the details on Jenny Lewis’ latest album On the Line. She performs songs, shares the wild story of how Ringo Starr ended up making an album cameo and shares how how reconnecting with her estranged mother near the end of her life informed the music she wrote. In hour two, we dig back to Talia Schlanger’s 2017 interview with John Mayer. He reflected on “discovering and reconciling pain" in his music and why early fame felt like wearing a t-shirt that was too tight.

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(Photo: Jenny Lewis - Rich McKie/WXPN)