On the next fresh air, the threat of domestic terrorism. Terry Gross talks with Elizabeth Neumann, who served as assistant secretary for threat prevention and security at the Department of Homeland Security during the Trump administration.  She warned about the growing threat and resigned after the Trump White house didn’t address it.  Join us.

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(Photo: Elizabeth Neumann, assistant secretary of counterterrorism and threat prevention at the Department of Homeland Security, testifies at a House subcommittee hearing on confronting white supremacy and the adequacy of the federal response in June 2019 - Jacquelyn Martin/AP).