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Caroline Ouko holds a portrait of her son, Irvo Otieno, who died in a state mental hospital on March 6, 2023. Daniel Sangjib Min/AP hide caption

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Caroline Ouko holds a portrait of her son, Irvo Otieno, who died in a state mental hospital on March 6, 2023.

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Black Americans are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. And there's a growing number of Black families who have to live with the pain of losing a loved one at the hands of police.

NPR's Juana Summers speaks with two women who have been living that reality for years.

In participating regions, you'll also hear a local news segment to help you make sense of what's going on in your community.

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This episode was produced by Brianna Scott and Elena Burnett with engineering by Jay Csyz. It was edited by Ashley Brown and William Troop. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.

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